Scientists Find “Worthless Gifts” Screen Out Golddiggers
Read ‘Worthless’ gifts get the good girls first, then come back and we’ll talk about it.
Ok, you’re back. Good.
Here’s what’s going on:
- Dr. Sozou and Dr. Seymour conducted a mathematical study about courtship.
- Anna Goslin wrote a popular science article for New Scientist.
- I’m writing about both the original study (Sozou and Seymour) and Ms Goslin’s article. So I’ll have comments about both.
You will see the following:
- the difference between what the scientists did, and what Ms Goslin thinks they did,
- how both the scientists and Ms Goslin support Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man, and
- how both the scientists and Ms Goslin report from an implicit bias of popular culture.
Here’s my commentary on the web page I pointed you to at the link above (3:20):
Here’s a link to Costly but worthless gifts facilitate courtship.
Summary: Worthless gifts aren’t worthless
The so-called worthlessness of the gifts described in the paper actually cost the man his most precious asset: his time. But the authors only evaluate worth in terms of material assets acquired. This is a mistake unless, as the authors state, one is pursuing gold diggers.
- The difference between what the scientists did, and what Ms Goslin thinks they did isn’t that large. She does insert her own value-laden term “good girls” into her article. This reflects her bias. Bias isn’t a bad thing, it’s something to be aware of.
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Both the scientists and Ms Goslin support our claim in Practical Female Psychology for the Practical Man that the best way to connect with a good girl is to offer great emotional experiences in socially comfortable situations. My personal opinion is that most men are more comfortable demonstrating value by spending money than not spending money… because they simply don’t know what else to do.
You don’t need to spend too much money… spend your time building emotional connection instead! You don’t need to soften up a woman with food and drink to build emotional connections. That’s the easy way out, and the more you spend, the less likely she is to go where you both want to go anyway. After all, she doesn’t want to feel like a whore. Put in the time. Most women don’t mind being “inexpensive” but most will balk at being “fast.”
- The scientists imply the a man’s time has no value when there is nothing tangible or material involved. Ms Goslin report from an implicit bias of popular culture, introducing the notion of a “Good Girl,” which is not explicitly defined in the Sozou and Seymour’s paper.
What’s your opinion? Is there anything I missed? Let us know.
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Hm, so that’s what your voice sounds like.
I think a lot of good points have been raised here. Regarding #2, what do you think of those guys who say it’s “masculine” to pay for everything and to demonstrate their ability to take care of her financially (which is different than supporting pregnant wives or families)? While it’s true there are gold diggers, isn’t it true that there are men who want to play that role? Indeed, some women would maintain that it’s in their nature to be on the receiving end of such largesse. Thoughts?
In any case, I’m glad Lenton made the point that a woman can marry a financial provider, but bear children sired by another man. This might be why they say that women find muscular/rugged guys (even) more attractive when they’re ovulating.
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Harold
29 Jan 09 at 5:16 pm
Everything a man does or does not do screens women into or out of his life.
Two acquaintances of (good friends of my girlfriend) are total naturals. And they very often pick up the tab. For everyone.
But they never, ever do this to impress a particular woman. They do it because that’s what they do.
Picking up a several hundred dollar tab in San Fran demonstrates very high value… as long as there is no supplication involved.
Another guy I worked with many years ago bought a Z8, but still couldn’t get laid. He was demonstrating lameness, not value. At some point, he may have found a golddigger somewhere, I’ve lost track of him.
David
30 Jan 09 at 5:36 pm
Interesting…thanks for the clarification.
Lol, I had to lookup “Z8″
Harold
30 Jan 09 at 9:08 pm
I don’t view dinners at a restaurant as worthless. Standard Community doctrine considers those buying attention and qualification. A worthless date is taking her shopping at the mall for stuff you need anyway, and buying her a coffee for a break.
They need to test this in the field with real Gold-diggers. I think the real way to screen them out is to say you are an unemployed avant-garde novelist working on developing a new style you call Dada Fiction.
I used to work at a used car dealership that specialized in sports & muscle cars. I drove a lot of hot cars around to get specialty work done on them. The only people who checked me out were young boys. Hot women never noticed the cars. I’d only recommend a hot car for pickup if you are an old Gay guy looking for young boys.
There is an Elvis movie where he is a racecar driver. Ann Margaret finally brings him lunch at the shop, which he is not overly pleased about, to get some attention. A lot of truth there.
I bet women view a 911 as a distraction from what a man should really be interested in; her.
Silver
Silvertree
31 Jan 09 at 3:22 pm
There is an Elvis movie where he is a racecar driver. Ann Margaret finally brings him lunch at the shop, which he is not overly pleased about, to get some attention.
“Viva Las Vegas” I saw that one and remember that scene.
Harold
1 Feb 09 at 3:38 am
When you wrote..
My personal opinion is that most men are more comfortable demonstrating value by spending money than not spending money… because they simply don’t know what else to do.
is very true, and also because no one else has taught them what the alternatives are.
BlackWolf
1 Feb 09 at 6:31 am